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  • #31
    I believe the game works 100% as follows, and after my experiences, I am fairly confident.

    ****This is my editorial opinion, and not bona fide fact***

    First
    There are 25-30 Workout variables, computer ratings on turns, gate speed, pace, recovering from races quicker, handling class, career longevity, traffic, stamina, and others. BUT, there is also an identical RACE code with these same 25-30 variables.
    What makes the game difficult is that we cannot know before actually racing (except a VERY LITTLE from multi track and off track training) how much the workout code aligns with the race code for each given horse.
    The computer assigns these randomly, and so because of this, the workout code and the race code can result in VASTLY different results. What we get is a random assortment of horses who run true to form, who run better than their numbers, and morning glories.... The same random aspect occurs with breeding, and you can look at the published results...

    The great equalizer is CREATES, which completely upset ALL implied harmony from the existing base of home bred horses.....Each year, a different number of creates are bred, and I believe these can be calibrated, "tweaked" to be on average "easier or harder to get a good create, be it in a given week, month, or even a "super create" entire season,

    Second
    Gelding in my opinion only allows a horse to reach its maximum potential at an earlier age..... It does not "improve a horse" per se' .....Instead, it can actually (and most often DOES) SHORTEN the life of a horse, in that you send the horse directly from its growth trajectory to near its max potential in an instant, and you lose breeding....and probably a lot of its racing career.

    Third
    Crazy anomalies in creates and breeding quality come in extremely un-random patterns. What is puzzling to me is that there is no way, and I ran an Excel simulator 6.2 million times (no, I am not kidding), that a RANDOM horse generator can assign "random" quality in such an "unrandom" way. So, as John Galt stated "Contradictions can never exist - If you find a potential contradiction exists, then check your premises. Herein, the premise that the horse is a completely random horse generator must be false. Instead, it generates and assigns quality in less random, but as of still unknown patterns. I will not get into specifics, but there are simply odds and probabilities that go beyond my computer's capacity to count zeroes, in terms of certain odds..... So, this remains a mystery, and I do not yet have a conclusion.

    Fourth
    This game is not about quality. Toc states he is the best ever, but that is just talk and forum chatter...We have all been there when we are feeling it!. He does not have any records? Not the most wins, not the highest win percentage, not the highest ITM%, not even Top 10 in most categories? The game correlates to deposits. The mighty deposit is the most important factor in winning. The more you deposit, the more you win, period. With VERY rare exceptions, such as the EXTREMELY rare Gary the Aquaman, and the slightly above center Buddha, no one ever profits by allowing their stable to run itself. I believe there could POSSIBLY even be an algorithm that correlates between deposits and horse creation, but this is ONLY an opinion of mine, not a fact that I or anyone can prove.... I am merely saying this UNSCIENTIFICALLY after studying those who openly admitted they made deposits on the forums, and then tracking/measuring their results in the ensuing "x" amount of time.

    This season, Toc spent the most of this, perhaps the shortest "Derby Field" in ages....and that is about 98% of the reason he has a VERY modest leaderboard lead this season, relative to other #1 ranked Owners at this point in the season...VERY modest with wins, win %, etc... at this point.


    There is no such thing as a best player when there are 23 active players here......If 23 of us sat in a Casino Slot machine section, those who brought the most money would have the biggest individual slot pull wins, and they would almost definitely also be FAR and AWAY the most likely to have the biggest session (season) wins......but also they would potentially have the highest expenditures (losses)

    ....I ask the community for their opinion on what constitutes improvement, outside of the 2 weeks it takes to learn the game. Toc is not winning at 35-40% like I did, like Ryan Express did...Toc is not winning as many as 2000-3000 seasonal races as Dan, Eddie, Norm, and others won across a season.....so I ask someone from the outside to contribute their opinions as well on talent curve. The bottom line is you choose about a month before the season starts that you are going to make the financial investment to win, and you will win a bunch and lose a bunch....and maybe you'll get a title along the way.

    My very best to you.....I personally think you all and myself are EXACTLY as talented at this game today (for those that have been here at least 5 seasons) as you were 10-15-20 seasons ago, and the numbers support it. The only variables season over season are volume; and volume arises from heavier deposits. period.

    I think you are about EXACTLY as talented as Norm, Eddie, Chris, etc......that's really all it is, other than spending more than anyone else


    Orb
    - Orb Farms

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    • #32
      No. I know i'm the best ever. I've been the best in any season I raced except my initial season. I was the best this last season in 30 days. The best in 60 days my last time starting a full season like 8 seasons ago then I stopped. It took the winner 2 more months to race just to catch me the last day. I would rock Orb, Greeko Ryan and Aquaman like an earthquake at the same time.

      We can make some adjustments to your theories right now. I dont deposit...so your insinuation that horses created based off of deposits couldnt be further off. Cute attempt. I probably have deposited less than everyone else. You all have more horses than I do retired and active. At some point you have to know how to race. All this mumbo jumbo don't mean diddly squat. Keep you trophies and champs (I didnt even log in in december during champs and consos with horses in the races) shows you how much I care about that nonsense. Yall spend way too much time on useless chit about the game.

      I say lets stop talking and have some people test ur theory and make some deposits...my kids need new shoes.

      Tockyocky Racing
      From the gate to the wire...stable on FIRE

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      • #33
        Nice try to dismiss Toc. You are about as good as the other veterans.

        ..."Cute attempt" at trying to dismiss my post

        Orb
        - Orb Farms

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        • #34
          I saw the inside and it don't mean chit. Its numbers in a formula that no one understands. The f'king guy who actually developed he code doesn't even know. This is highly disrespectful but expected from jealous headless riders. What do you control as an owner?

          Pick a horse
          Pick a race
          Pick Jocks
          Pick instruction

          WTF can I possible have an advantage at?

          Most days I think of quitting this game and its nearly that time. There is very little enjoyment beating people like you.

          I've tried to give hints on these boards but no one pays attention. You get out what you put in.

          I know every single horse in detail.
          The data i keep is extensive...like a library at my finger tips
          I know EVERY jock at EVERY distance with EVERY instruction...why...because i've done the homework like a nerd.

          I'm the most profitable stable ever because of how much study i put in not because of deposits. I'm playing with your money. I swear the day I hang it up i'm telling all my techniques and strategies.

          Now...Orb please stop inboxing me for help with the game and for horses. The bridge is burned!
          Tockyocky Racing
          From the gate to the wire...stable on FIRE

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          • #35


            I will not email you any more, no problem man.


            forget it....

            Good luck Toc,

            Orb
            - Orb Farms

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            • #36
              Brian,

              Might be best to delete this one, and I can repost my long thread, as I wish to discuss with the community.

              These things do no good for the site, and I apologize.

              Again, I would like to be able to repost the long thread (I saved it) once you delete

              Just a request,

              Orb
              - Orb Farms

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              • #37
                Your long post is actually garbage filled with insinuations and basically calling the site corrupt. The community shouldn't lose an entire thread because one person can't control his impulses. Your "long thread" as you call it couldn't be further from reality and I advise any new stable to not listen to a word thats in it.
                Tockyocky Racing
                From the gate to the wire...stable on FIRE

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                • #38
                  I think you need to step away from the computer. Corrupt? Did you read it?

                  What in the name of the Good Lord are you talking about?

                  Racing and Workout codes being different?
                  Geldings having impact?
                  Investing money translating into more wins and success?
                  Trying to "catch" the luckiest times to buy creates?
                  Buy more, win more

                  Step away from the computer and grab a Starbucks dude, and maybe Brian can have this deleted, so as to add some calm back to your life man

                  Your "Impulses" seem to be far more emphatic than anyone, including (gulp) the cockroach and snowflake and loser (me) himself!

                  Orb
                  - Orb Farms

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                  • #39
                    You stated that game possibly is influenced by deposits...read ur post moron. I'd ban ur dumb ass for chit like that.

                    And I am stepping away lol....way away. The sales page is filling by the minute. You might sniff a few wins now that I'm out.

                    MERCY RULE
                    Tockyocky Racing
                    From the gate to the wire...stable on FIRE

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                    • #40
                      LOL, please re-read it. Those who spend more in the stock market, slot machine, lottery machine, race track, Digital Downs have the propensity to spend more, and win more, but also risk more, potenitally losing more.

                      and now add moron to snowflake, cockroach, loser

                      Starbucks, Chai Latte is my recommendation...though tonight only, you might opt for a chamomile tea

                      EDIT, oh and 82 of your 90 wins this season are still missing from the sales page???

                      Orb
                      Last edited by Orb Farms; 01-13-2019, 12:12 AM.
                      - Orb Farms

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                      • #41
                        It's obvious at this point I am not dealing with a stable person. I think you may need to re-read it. Orb you can have the message boards...I don't give a chit. My advice to you would be to go learn the game because u are non existent. Just a disgruntled has been trainer who for the last week has been begging me for help via inbox.

                        I'm over you (not just in the standings) like literally over you!

                        Thank you....Next!
                        Tockyocky Racing
                        From the gate to the wire...stable on FIRE

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                        • #42
                          neither of you can leave the shear enjoyment I get from ready yall's post is worth the monthly subscription lone charges for the privilege.

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                          • #43
                            I get the same type of enjoyment Eddie when I am passing ur horses on the track!

                            Thank you....Next!
                            Tockyocky Racing
                            From the gate to the wire...stable on FIRE

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                            • #44
                              Anyone else? Don't get it twisted...I feel relived and happy. It's over

                              How many times u gonna edit that post?
                              Tockyocky Racing
                              From the gate to the wire...stable on FIRE

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                              • #45
                                Look it's Orb


                                Tockyocky Racing
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