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    hi ive done the timed workouts on my horses but haven't a clue what it all means and can't tell what distance they prefer

    can anybody help please

  • #2
    Welcome to DD!

    I can help you if you would like. Inbox me the name of the horse in question and I'll take a look. If you have already received assistance from a more experienced decorated trainer no worries.

    Best of luck on the track!
    Tockyocky Racing
    From the gate to the wire...stable on FIRE

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    • #3
      I found this a while ago in this forums, its helped me..This is intended as a rough guide to gauge your horse by.

      Understanding Splits with Charts

      Do a timed worked on your horse at 6 Furlongs using one of the top jockeys on push. Keep this same jock on the horse for all your works.

      Calculate the time for the final 2 furlongs. This will often be referred to here as closing time.

      Example. 22.08 44.99 1:09.19 so 1.09.19-44.99= 24.2 seconds.

      Compare your horses' closing time to this chart.


      Time: Push everything below and up to this distance:
      24.50+ 4 Furlong
      24.25 5 Furlong
      24.0 6 Furlong
      23.75 7 Furlong
      23.50 8 Furlong
      23.25 9 Furlong
      23.00 10 Furlong.

      Very rarely will you get a work with less than 23.0 seconds on the final split. There are however a few horses that do work better on push at 11 or 12 Furlongs. Again I suggest you do a timed work to verify what your horse wants.

      What I learn from this besides at what distances our horse prefers to be pushed. You should notice that for the next furlong or possibly two past your max push distance your horse will prefer steady. Beyond that then relax. Again..Always work to make sure

      As far as the example you can see with the 24.2 second closing time the horse only prefers to be pushed up to 5 Furlongs.


      Just as the above chart tells us how far to push our horse we can look at the first two furlong splits and get an rough idea of how short you should run your horse. This chart is less accurate but a good guide as the closing time can vary but it will give you a good starting point on evaluating your horses times.

      First Split Run as short as
      <22.0 4 Furlong
      22.25 5 Furlong
      22.40 7 Furlong
      22.50 8 Furlong
      22.60 9 Furlong
      22.80 10 Furlong
      23.00 11 Furlong
      >23.00 12 Furlong

      23.00 is pretty well the cut off you get a horse that opens for higher than 23.0 seconds it needs to close very nicely in order to compete. Again this chart is less reliable but hopefully you see the trend in that the higher the first split the longer you need to run it and the lower the last split the longer your run your horse on push.

      A few examples.

      First split 22.75. Final Split 23.50. First split suggests in the 9 Furlong area. Closing split says push to 8. Since we can only push to 8 but shoudl run at 9 we should be looking at steady at 9F or 10 F would be the ideal distance for this horse.

      First Split 22.10 Final Split 23.00. Very good chance this horse would be able to run almost all distances push from 5 to 10 or 11 Furlongs and should perform well on steady at 12

      One last example you will find often especially with creates. First split 21.88 Closing split 24.70. This is your classic 4 Furlong Specialists and should only be ran at that distance.
      Speed doesn’t matter as much as direction.

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      • #4
        i used R moore as the jockey, who isn't 1 of the best so guessing that would make a difference

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        • #5
          Here's one more chart that i also found on here somewhere...

          Final Times at each distance what you are hoping for when you work.

          Distance Time wanted for elite horses. Always exceptions when you consider a horse's heart
          level it can work slower but run great.

          4F 43.80 or less .
          5F Sub 58.0
          6F Sub 1.09.0
          7F Sub 1.22 (these are rare the low 1.22's are still great horses)
          8F Sub 1.36
          9F Sub 1.50
          10F Sub 2.04 (Same as 7F these are rare low 2.04's are great)
          11F Sub 2.19
          Speed doesn’t matter as much as direction.

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          • #6
            you also have to remember grate workouts don't always mean great racers.

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